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Learning the Hard Way: Things I Learned From Failure

Before Bonaverde, there was Kaffee Toro, the first incarnation of our vision to build the world’s first roast-grind-brew coffee machine. It failed. Crashed and burned, in fact, leaving only bankruptcy and unmet potential in its ashes. To be blunt, the experience was shit.

I wouldn’t trade it for anything.

Well, yes, maybe a theoretical world where I knew everything I know now then. (And, of course, the opportunity to avoid any chaos I caused for others along the way). That, however, is impossible. Kaffee Toro, for all the destruction and devastation it brought into my life, was a crash course in start-up building. Without the lessons I learned from that first attempt, Bonaverde wouldn’t exist. For that, I will always be eternally grateful.

However, to save you a bit of trouble, here’s a run down of the syllabus for the section of the course entitled “Investors and Funding 101.”

Lesson 1: Too many baristas spoil the coffee.

I started Kaffee Toro with €50,000 of my own funds, thinking it would be best to bootstrap until I had something substantial to show investors. By the time we raised our first funding, we had a pitch deck, prototypes, team, ideas, website, name and a little IP. We still only raised €80,000 at an €800,000 valuation. It was a start, but not enough to truly fuel the company. So we did more rounds, bringing in another million in VC funding.

We also acquired 15 more investors. Fifteen people at the table. Fifteen opinions. Fifteen agendas. To add madness to mayhem, every investor had joined the project at a different time. Start-ups evolve. They pivot. To do otherwise is an exercise in futility and foolishness (but we’ll talk about that in a second). Still, fifteen people, sitting around the table, all with a different vision of the company, all arguing for a different concept, resulted in a completely unproductive situation. My puzzle became to get all of these people, all of whom I was accountable to as investors, on the same page.

We stagnated. Fifteen equal forces pushing against each other will go in no direction at all. I spent endless energy trying to defy this basic law of physics. Kaffee Toro stood still. Knowing we needed to move, I asked for €50,000 to run a Kickstarter campaign. With half the group in different books, never mind the same page, the money never materialized.

At some point, moving backwards becomes better than not moving at all. I filed for bankruptcy the same month as my wedding. We wouldn’t celebrate properly for another year and a half. In the meantime, I raised money from my incredibly encouraging friends and family, and started from scratch, this time knowing better than to let too many baristas behind my espresso bar.

Lesson 2: No coffee plant thrives without the support it needs to grow.

As W. Edwards Deming put it, “It is not necessary to change. Survival is not mandatory.” To employ a common witticism at the risk of sounding cliché, start-ups are like sharks. If they stop moving they die.

When you plant a seed, it doesn’t grow up into a bigger seed. All the brilliance of the blooms to come is contained in that little capsule, but it needs to be given the room to grow into its true potential, evolving from an unassuming seed into the awe-inspiring natural beauty of a flower. All of this evolution requires support: regular watering, fertile soil, and plenty of sunlight. Otherwise all you have is a seed petrifying, unrealized, buried under the earth.

As Kaffee Toro struggled to sprout, left bereft of sun and water by investors sinking heels into the soil, refusing to change, I came to a startling realization. There was a major flaw in the original concept. A green coffee market didn’t exist. There is a second lesson within this lesson: You can’t push things into market when there is no market. You have to create that market. You must create a pull to market.

For that you need some credibility and demonstrable demand. You also need valuable partners. And those you get when they believe there is a market.

We had a plan to build the credibility, the market and the demand. What we didn’t have were the supportive partners. Kaffee Toro sat on the heating plate until it was too stale to drink. So we dumped out the pot and started fresh. New partners saw the potential and came onboard, invested their labor and created the project.

The result was Bonaverde. Our team is small and cohesive, united in vision and working to evolve that vision together. Learning from past mistakes, we’ve tended it with care and given it plenty of room to grow and change. Entirely crowdfunded, we’re accountable to no one but the Coffee Changers, which in my mind is as it should be. After all, as those who use and believe in Bonaverde, our crowdfunding backers have the most authentic investment in our project. Their genuine support has been invaluable.

The best lesson, however, has been this:

Through it all, despite every frustration and difficulty and the culminating disaster that defined Kaffee Toro in the end, the idea never lost its luster. I remain as passionate now about this project as I was when I first started developing it so many years ago. I believe it’s time to change the world of coffee.

After all we’ve been through, I know now that belief is absolutely unshakeable.

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Justin Wardill just now

Got an email today after asking about Australia shipping confirming anyone outside of US or EU cannot get the machine and only a refund. They can't be stuffed posting it here, good job.

And if you didn't get the form before the 1st of December have to wait till February.

Rob Goodwin about 10 hours ago

I was told this morning that we'll get multiple roast profile cards. I hope the CS representative was correct. I also suggested they communicate through a backer Facebook page or their main Facebook page on tech issues. The coffee concierge problems felt like another slap in the face after I spent a few hours last night assuming I was doing something wrong going through an endless cycle of Facebook messenger mishaps.

Justin about 12 hours ago

@Scott, I agree. Personally I would want a roast only (different profiles) and brew / grind cards since I've always let my roasted coffee rest. However, I'm in this project for an interesting experience, not to solve all my coffee problems :) I'm ok working with what we can for now.

I would love to see this company succeed (without the RFID stuff) unless they want to sell the machine at / below cost (more like the Keurig model). But of course, it's up to them to create a business plan that will work out. I'm very curious to see what the Berlin V2 is going to look like.

Scott A. Smith about 15 hours ago

@Justin, the cards have a medium roast profile permanently stored on them. If that's the only roast you'll ever want to do then the card may indeed be a solution for your 3G connectivity issue. However, if you want to do a dark, or even a medium-dark roast, you'll be out of luck unless your Berlin can communicate with Bonaverde's back-end. :(

I really hope my own "pouch" issue is not a 3G Connectivity issue; that'd make my machine completely useless since I only want to do medum-dark to dark roasts.

At a minimum, Bonaverde should send us multiple cards for different roast profiles.

Justin about 16 hours ago

I am / was also having the issue with "Problem with the pouch, please fix it and start again.", speaking with a very helpfully support rep over Facebook messenger we thought it may be related to 3G reception since they never saw my machine come online on the back end.

I took my machine on a ride in the car and found a place with excellent cell reception. After powering it up in that location, I was able to control the machine through Coffee Concierge.

Obviously, that won't work at my home, but I was told that the "Coffee Changer" RIFD card coming does not require 3G reception and should work just fine.

I know many people have had problems reaching support, but once you get through, the experience had been good. I'll post again once I receive the RFID card.

Aaron Schwid 2 days ago

They didn’t send me any coffee with the rfid, the concierge doesn’t work, and it doesn’t come close to fitting anywhere in my kitchen. Also no one responds to their “chat” customer service feature and there is no other way to get in touch. Planning on posting an “Office Space” video of me smashing the machine. What a joke.

Rob Goodwin 2 days ago

So. 1.2kg is not 6.6kg of coffee, the concierge doesn't work, and I got no coffee filters.

Scott A. Smith 3 days ago

Update to my previous post.

I contacted support and got a response within an hour. Apparently there was something wrong with the concierge back-end and they got it sorted pretty quickly, allowing me to enter my IME number and proceed to the next steps.

Unfortunately, that's where I hit another roadblock. When I try to run a brew cycle, the machine reports:

"Problem with the pouch, please fix it and start again."

It also reports a similar error if I try to roast only:

"Pouch is not ready, please fix it and start again."

According to support, the machine doesn't realize that I've used the concierge service and is looking for a scan from the bean pouch. They're aware of the issue and are working on a firmware update for the machines, but it could be "a week or so" before the update gets pushed out.

I'm frustrated and disappointed. but, at this point, I'm willing to wait it out.

On the positive side, Liz in support has been quite helpful and has responded within an hour of each of my questions.

Scott A. Smith 3 days ago

Got the machine. Looks OK. Definitely taller than I was expecting. The Carafe feels super-cheap.

There are ZERO pouches/filters with RFID tags. Instead, there are four backs of green beans with Facebook Messenger codes on them and instructions to scan the code with my Facebook Messenger app. Scanned the code and was greeted by "Kike" the Barista:

"Hi Scott. I am Kike, you personal barista. I can help you make the perfect cup of coffee. Do you already own a Bonaverde Berlin?"

Really? "Kike"? I do not think that I shall be showing this process to my Rabbi.

So I select "Yes" in answer to Kike's question and. nothing. I type "Hello" and that exact cycle repeats. I type "Cancel", same thing. "Make Coffee".. same thing. Kike will ask me if I own the Berlin and then just stop responding.

Jeff M. 3 days ago

I am with you Kevin. I am up to 10 pages of support tickets unresolved. I double them for everyone closed and merged and unresolved. If you hit your hourly limit directly in ZenDesk just email support to add more. Best of luck.

Kevin Reierson 4 days ago

After opening countless support tickets and sending messages to every address I could find I finally heard back from their L2 support. This is the message I received regarding refunds.

Thanks for your email. We're sorry to dissapoint, but we'll be batch processing ALL refunds submitted up until this point on 20th December.

We appreciate your patience.

The Bonaverde TeaM"

Kevin Reierson 4 days ago

I have submitted over 50 support tickets to their site which they marked as solved and then merged with a different users tickets. I have been posting on their facebook page as well and sent Hans and Bonaverde private messages on Facebook. I have yet to get anything back except for the same excuse filled canned responses about Bonaverde initiating all the refunds but I will continue to harass them.

Jeff M. 5 days ago

As Dan stated, the only way to get a refund is to become a thorn.

Email your requests to:

Also submit your refund request on this form:

Lastly, some of your emails will create tickets. Sign in here to create directly and more importantly when they mark them solved with a canned response, you can reopen the tickets.

Keep going until your refund is sent.

Justin 5 days ago

Did anybody ever have and solve the "Problem with the coffee pouch. Please fix it ans start again." message when using the Coffee Concierge?

Kevin Reierson 5 days ago

Just when you think it couldn't get any worse it does. These people are a joke and should be ashamed to continue this farce.

Tim Fensham 6 days ago

Bonaverde have just advised me that anyone outside EU/USA will NOT get their machine and needs to fill out a refund form. They claim they were unable to have machines certified outside EU/USA regions.

If you are one of these affected, please bombard them with emails. or just demand an instant refund. It seems this may be one of the only ways to get your money back.

The following is the email I received:

We thank you so much for being on our journey to change coffee! We have greatly appreciated your patience as we have worked to bring out the best product we could to as many people as possible. It is therefore with great regret that we face a situation where we must cancel orders in markets outside the United States (US) and the European Union (EU).

Unfortunately, due to operational constraints and complexity, we could not get our machines certified under official approbation laws outside the US and EU, and thus are forbidden from sending products into other markets. While our intent is to broaden our reach, we have no date we can promise for when we will be able to do. As such, we will refund you the amount originally paid for a machine and/or coffee.

As we do not keep any credit card information on file, all refunds must go through PayPal.

Click here to complete the Bonaverde Refund Form.

You will need the email address associated with your PayPal account to complete this form. If you do not have a PayPal account, it is free to sign up and there are no fees for receiving the funds. Please visit www.paypal.com for more information.

Bonaverde will initiate all refunds. Requests made by individuals from PayPal to Bonaverde will not be processed. As we are also in the midst of shipping machines to thousands of backers, it may take several weeks for us to process refunds so please be patient. Refund requests must be made through the above form, please do not reply to this email to make your request.

The Bonaverde Team

Pavel 6 days ago

After 4 years of waiting, I would like a refund too. Bonaverde, you made a different product than promised. It's so sad ((

My backer number is 1152.

Benjamin Kober 6 days ago

#7 Wie kann ich investieren?

-> You missed it. Schade. Wirklich, das war eine super Gelegenheit! Wir haben nach 7,813m EUR auf Seedmatch nun eine 35,4m USD Series-A Bewertung post Seedrs. Guter Deal für alle Seedmatch Investoren. Aber: Wir machen demnächst eine neue Runde auf, wir können es einfach nicht sein lassen. Es it super mit Euch, wir wachsen gemeinsam, gehen durch dick und dünn. Bis zum IPO. Wir melden uns wann, wo, was, wieviel.

#8 Wie arbeitet man für Bonaverde?

-> Dafür brauchst Du eine enorm hohe Stressresistenz. Mach das nicht. Totaler Irrsinn. Hier sind nur Kaffeejunkies unterwegs und wir alle drehen am Rad. Nein, scherz, wir suchen immer die besten Leute, schau mal unter corner.bonaverde.com rein oder Schreib jobs@bonaverde.com wir suchen vor allem Leute, weniger Posten. In Wirklichkeit suchen wir gar nicht. Wir werden gefunden (:

#9 Wie distribuiert man Bonaverde?

-> das ist ausnahmsweise mal easy: distribution.bonaverde.com - einfach Entry Package für 1.500 EUR kaufen, Verträge studieren, Container bestellen, Coffee Change in Dein Land bringen.

#10 Wie nutze ich die IoT digitale Bonaverde?

-> Wir haben so lange darauf gewartet! Nun ist es nur halb fertig. Aber immerhin! Es funktioniert eigentlich ganz gut, klar, ist nur in BETA, aber so are we: Concierge.bonaverde.com einfach mal ausprobieren, das ist ein Messenger Bot, also eine Art Künstliche Intelligenz versteckt im Facebook Messenger, ganz intuitiv kann man sich da durch den Conversation Flow klicken. Muss nichts schreiben oder machen, nur klicken. Und schon röstet die Maschine den richtigen Kaffee. Oder mahlt nur ohne Rösten oder stellt einen Wecker. Und so weiter. Du traust facebook nicht? Gut. Wir auch nicht. Darum ist es auch nicht Facebook sondern „nur“ deren Messenger. Und der ist anonym verwendbar. Der einzige Messenger wahrscheinlich. Und er weiß nichts über Dich. Nicht einmal wer die Maschine bedient. Wir wissen das dann auch nicht. Und das ist auch gut so. Darum sind wir auf die Cellular Komponente so stolz: Kaffee rösten war niemals einfacher (: Ohne Scherz: Ein Cellular Netz zu hacken ist deutlich schwieriger als ein Wifi Netz. Trust us, Deine Daten sind bei der Deutschen Telekom sicherer als in Deinem Router. Und genau das nutzen wir aus. Wenn Du also ein Smartphone hast oder WiFi zuhause nutzt, kannst Du auch unsere Privacy Policy akzeptieren, https://bonaverdecoffee.typeform.com/to/hgmjxp

Overall, Du siehst, wir haben eigentlich für alle und alle Fragen eine Antwort. Wir kommen nur nicht dazu, sie Dir zu schicken. Darum diese Email. Viele Fragen werden auch beantwortet über support.bonaverde.com und Dir steht wie immer der Call Back Service von unserem CEO und Founder Hans Stier zur Verfügung: call.bonaverde.com er freut sich (tatsächlich) (immer noch) über (fast) jeden Anruf! Wer sich wirklich immer freut, wie ein kleines Kind ist Kike: Einfach mal tasting.bonaverde.com besuchen und bei uns im Coffee Lab vorbei kommen auf ein individuelles Tasting. Gern alle Fragen mitbringen. Und was Dir sonst so auf dem Herzen liegt. Es geht um Kaffee, after all.

Lieben Gruß aus Berlin

Hans & das Bonaverde Team

Benjamin Kober 6 days ago

10. How do I use IoT digital Bonaverde?

We have waited so long for it! Now it's only halfway done. But anyway! It actually works quite well, of course, it's only in BETA, but so we are: concierge.bonaverde.com is a messenger bot, so it's a kind of artificial intelligence hidden in Facebook Messenger, so you can intuitively click through the conversation flow. Doesn't have to write or do anything, just click. And then the machine roasts the right coffee. Or only grinds without roasting or sets an alarm clock. And so on. You don't trust Facebook? Good. Neither do we. That's why it's not Facebook but "only" their Messenger. And it can be used anonymously. The only messenger probably. And he knows nothing about you. Not even who operates the machine. We don't know that either. And that's a good thing. That's why we are so proud of the Cellular component: roasting coffee has never been easier (: Without kidding: Hacking a Cellular Net is much more difficult than hacking a Wifi Net. Trust us, your data is more secure at Deutsche Telekom than in your router. And that is exactly what we exploit. So if you have a smartphone or use WiFi at home, you can also accept our Privacy Policy.

Overall, you see, we actually have an answer for everyone and all questions. We just don't get to send it to you. That's why this email. Many questions will also be answered via support.bonaverde.com and you can, as always, get the call back service from our CEO and founder Hans Stier: call.bonaverde.com he is (actually) always happy to hear about (almost) all about (nearly) all the information you need.

Lieber Benjamin, lieber Coffee Changer, Investor, Supporter, lieber Kunde.

Bonaverde fährt mal wieder einen neuen Looping auf der Achterbahnfahrt. Auch wenn es nach langer Wartezeit nun unendlich nah klingt war es doch so schwierig wirklich alle Maschinen an alle Crowd Supporter zu liefern. Mit einem sau kleinen Team von gerade einmal vier Leuten schrauben wir hier Tag und Nacht an allem, was Ihr online und offline von sehen könnt. Keine magic Heinzelmännchen. Keine crazy Ressourcen. Einfach nur Leidenschaft. Wir wollen schaffen, was wir Euch versprochen haben und wir kämpfen dafür mit unserem ganzen Herzblut. Aber auch wir sind nur Menschen und heute kapitulieren wir: Vor der schieren Flut Eurer Begeisterung! Wir sagen DANKE und könnten uns vor Freude in den Armen liegen. Vor Freude, dass die Maschine, dass unsere Erfindung so gut bei Euch ankommt. Knapp drei tausend Haushalte rösten nun in Deutschland Kaffee, viele von Euch jeden Morgen frisch, viele vielfach an einem Tag. Was wir einfach nicht haben kommen sehen ist banal aber irgendwie auch ein ehrliches Statement unserer Unbedarftheit: Ihr braucht alle Kaffee. Aus purer Naivität haben wir eine Rüstung pro Tage pro Maschine angenommen und wollten Euch damit Eingangs versorgen. Schnell wurde klar, im Schnitt sind es eher drei mal so viel. Der Rekord liegt bei dreizehn. Wir können uns ärgern und heulen. Wir können uns freuen und jubeln. Unterm Strich müssen wir nun vor allem arbeiten. Und das probieren wir hier am Puls der Kaffeezentrale: Wir wollen liefern! Kaffee! Badges! Air Filter! Coffee Filter! Neue Maschinen. Keine Frage, wir haben gerade erst angefangen. Was wir aber ab heute nicht mehr stemmen können ist folgendes: Dieselben Fragen wieder und wieder zu beantworten. Wir wissen einfach auch keine bessere Antwort: Es dauert alles länger. Es tut uns leid aber so ist es. Mithin hier ganz offen: Alle Deine offenen Support Tickets in unserem Customer Support Desk werden jetzt als SOLVED markiert. Uns ist Komplett bewusst, dass wir Dir eigentlich gar nicht geholfen haben. Dass Du vielleicht nur DANKE sagen wolltest. Und es schmerzt uns, Dein Feedback und Deine Unterstützung in all Deinen Emails hier nicht einzeln und individuell beantworten zu können. Wir nehmen es uns für die Weihnachts“ferien“ vor (: - Scherz beiseite: Wir hoffen im Folgenden all Deine offenen Fragen zu beantworten. Wenn Du dennoch Deine Frage dort nicht beantwortet siehst, wähle einen der unten beschriebenen Wege, um individuelle Hilfe zu erhalten.

DANKE für Deine Unterstützung

Hans & das Bonaverde Team

Meist gestellte Fragen:

#1 Wann bekomme ich meine Maschine?

-> Keine Ahnung. Vor dem 20.12.2017 - versprochen. Aber natürlich nur, wenn Du uns auch Deine Adresse mitteilst. Nach so langer Zeit verstehen wir, dass Du dafür Zeit brauchst. Wir müssen aber auch weiter machen. Darum ganz offen: wenn wir bis Freitag 1.12.2017 keine Adressdaten von Dir haben, bekommst Du keine Maschine aus dieser ersten Produktion. Sondern erst aus der zweiten. Das wird im Februar sein, vielleicht aber auch erst im Mai. Also füll Deinen Link aus! US Backers oder Germany Backers oder Rest of World Backers

#2 Wie kann ich noch mehr Maschinen kaufen und verschenken?

-> Gar nicht. Wir sind restlos ausverkauft. Bis einschließlich Ostern 2018. Ja, wir nehmen Vorbestellungen an, nein momentan noch nicht, ja, wir melden uns aber, wenn wir Deine Reservierung annehmen können und ja wir hoffen, bis dahin ein schnelleres Liefersystem in Action zu haben.

#3 Wie kann ich noch mehr Kaffee kaufen? Neue Kaffees ausprobieren? Kaffee-Abo, Flat oder Direkt-Injektion buchen?

-> Wir sind aus, finito. Kaffee direkt vom Bauern zu kaufen stellte sich als ungefähr so komplex heraus, wie Kaffeemaschinen zu bauen, die auch rösten. Sau komplex, nicht nachmachen, die sechs Copy-Cats, die wir inzwischen kennen beissen sich auch gerade die Zähne aus, don’t try this at home. Lange Rede kurzer Sinn: Du bestellst hier keinen Kaffee, sondern wir liefern. Egal ob Du willst oder nicht. Wenn Du zuviel hast, schick ihn zurück oder zahl eben, erst, wenn Du den Kaffee auch verbrauchst. Someone said Pay As You Go? Subscription Boxes? YES! All das und noch viel mehr. Aber eben erst demnächst. Wann? Keine Ahnung. Wir arbeiten daran. Wir melden uns. Du hast Kaffee bekommen aber bekommst den mit dem QR Code nicht in Betrieb genommen? Ja, das war dumm von uns, im Team wurde vergessen, eine Erklärung bei zu legen. Schlecht. Pardon. Es ist aber ganz einfach: Du gehst auf concierge.bonaverde.com und nutzt den facebook Messenger, dort sind die Röstprofile für Deine Kaffeesorten hinterlegt. Einfach anklicken.

#4 Wie kann ich Air Filter kaufen?

-> Gar nicht, momentan. Bald aber, ganz sicher. Momentan schicken wir Air Filter einfach mit Kaffee raus. Nutz den Air Filter und zahl den, wenn Du unbedingt System Hacking mit Kaffee non-direct machen willst. Wir stecken’s auch nicht den Bauern… wenn Du einen neuen Air Filter hast, säubere bitte die Silberhäutchenkammer, setze den Air Filter ein, scanne den RFID Chip auf dem Air Filter und Du bist good to go für weitere 30 Röstungen. Wenn Du den RFID verloren hast, er fehlte auf Deiner Verpackung oder der Chip ist eben sonst irgendwie nicht da (was wir für geile Geschichten gehört haben. ), schreib bitte eine Email an AirFilter@bonaverde.com und wir werden Dir direkt remotely die Maschine zurücksetzen. Du übernimmst die Haftung, mit öligen Silberhäutchenresten und heißen Kaffee-Röstungen ist nicht zu scherzen!

#5 Wann kommt die Badge und was ist das geiles?

-> Wir schicken Dir die Badge, wenn Du an der Reihe bist. Wir müssen der Ordnung im DHL Versand folgen, um hier nicht noch mehr Chaos anzurichten. Die Badge ist eine Membership Card. Attached to you name. Mit ihr kannst Du Dich an der Maschine identifizieren, kannst jede Maschine in Betrieb nehmen, Dir ein Leben lang an Bonaverde Maschinen Kaffee ziehen und die tollsten Röstprofile verwirklichen. Als Coffee Changer hast Du überall Zugriff. All Access eben. Unser 650k USD Kickstarter Stretch Goal. Just for you.

#6 Wann kommt mein Refund, wo Ihr mich doch gar nicht beliefert in xyz!?

-> Ja, doof gelaufen, wir haben uns da zu weit aus dem Fenster gelehnt. Shipping in alle Länder der Welt ist doch nicht so einfach. Wir schaffen momentan 32 Länder. Naja: EU und USA eben. Und paar Anrainerstaaten. Das ist nicht befriedigend, das wissen wir. Unser Vorschlag: Jetzt Refund nehmen und sobald wir in Deinem Land mit einem Distributor vertreten sind, versprechen wir Dir Matchen wir Dein Kickstarter Paket. Alternativ jetzt einfach die Füße still halten und der Kommunikation folgen, wir sind teilweise selbst überrascht, wie schnell wir in manchen Territorien voran kommen mit Distribution & Approbation… In any case: Refunds gibts ebenfalls vor dem 20.12.2017 - versprochen.

Benjamin Kober 6 days ago

This is what I just got from BV regarding my request for a refund and for a return label of the machine they sent me although knowing I declined the privacy policy and did want a refund. To cut it short: the are not answering support requests any more.

Jeffrey Price on November 27

FYI - I received my machine in Florida today (11/27/17) despite being on the "I quit, don't send me anything, I want a refund" list. The thing is huge. As stated by others, don't think about putting in on the counter under the cabinets.

It came packed just fine with a big cloth bag covering the whole thing. Now I have a medium sized laundry bag.

Putting it together involves taking the right side off, removing the big black thing, prying it open and snapping in the HEPA/charcoal filter. Then you are supposed to run a liter of water through it without beans. Well, I couldn't make that work, so I just roasted a bag of beans.

Here is the surprising thing - the coffee turned out very good. I will give them credit for that. So, the end use actually works.

However, there are a few things I still don't see. You have one user-controlled setting - coffee grind. That's all (it's behind the water container and there is no way ahead of adjusting it to figure out just what grind is coming next. So be careful and adjust just a bit and check after a pot.

There are no user controls at all. The coffee comes in a filter bag that doubles as the filter for the grinds. You fill it with water, touch the front and it says "scan". You hold the RFID from the coffee bag/filter combo package in front of the scan words and it beeps. Now you tear off the top of the coffee been filter pack, pour the beans into the roaster on top, and put the filter in the filter tray. Close it up and lightly touch the glowing star thingy on the front. That's it.

Now, how do I put my own beans in for roasting? They told us that will be offered.

How do I set a roasting profile? There is supposed to be some free RFID cards.

What happens next? Is there going to be a hack posted to overcome the issues?

What is the cost/choice of beans from BV?

Anyway, I thought it only fair, since I bitched in the past, to acknowledge that the coffee tastes great. But at what cost per pot/cup?

Luke Szkudlarek on November 26

I received the coffee machine, the coffee is good as expected because I tried it from the prototype when I met Hans 4 years ago.

It's been a running joke in my circle of friends, who never believed BV machine would actually arrive. We had a tasting session this weekend, it was fun and everyone enjoyed the coffee, but the story of four years of struggle, drama, lies, unfulfilled promises was even better, it's a great conversation point.

There is no happy ending yet, so the drama continues. will we get the RFID tags to brew our own coffee? or would we have to hack the system ourselves?

Looking forward to the next chapter of this black comedy! Enjoy the ride and stay cheerful, it's the only way to deal with this.

BTW I'll be in Berlin next week visiting BV, I'm happy to write an update here after my visit.

Florian on November 26

I should have invested in Bitcoin instead.

Florian on November 26

so, how many people have actually received a coffee machine yet?

Philip on November 25

Thanks Dan, that's the most helpful post I've seen yet on this campaign. I guess I'll start my daily requests until I reach resolution.

Just curious, but how many support issues did you have listed in your system when all was said and done?

Jesse McLean Jr. on November 24

Is it really any different now than it was in 2012?

Kevin Reierson on November 23

I just submitted 40 requests for a refund on their support site, maybe that will get someones attention?

Kevin Reierson on November 23

Thanks for sharing what worked for you Dan. I am going to try that same thing as well. I have been leaving negative comments on their Facebook

but as usual they never answer or just give excuses.

Corey on November 23

Congrats on getting your refund Dan. That seems to be the story from almost everyone who got their refunds. You have to keep pestering them and messaging them and keep resending the forms. I'll have to start doing that now. I tried being patient, but it's not the route that leads to getting results.

Dan Pearce on November 23

I've finally received my refund today. Good luck to everyone else hunting their money back. Its not been easy to get them to pay up but it can happen if you're persistent/time consuming enough. This was my process if it helps anyone else.

After several messages to support@bonaverde.com I was sent a link to the refund application form (https://bonaverdecoffee.typeform.com/to/n5G8WB). Despite filling this out multiple times, all it resulted in was a sustained silence. The form completes by saying that there is no more action required on your part and the refund will follow, but there is no acknowledgement of receipt by Bonaverde or timeline for refund. After several follow ups, I got sent the refund form again. Followed by more silence. It felt like it was a stalling tactic than an actual formalized and actionable refund process. I've no idea what the actual process behind this form is but it didn't lead to a refund for me. My guess is my name was just added to a list somewhere in a "todo" pile that wont be acted on any time soon.

Then I found the direct link to their support platform (https://coffeechangers.zendesk.com/hc/en-us) which you can log into with your email and see any support requests you may have already sent. I was able to see when they'd just marked my requests "solved" after sending me the refund request forms. I personally didn't feel like anything had yet been solved and being able to see which of my requests was open/pending meant I could open another one. And another one. And another . making sure I wasn't just a name moved to another list somewhere that no one is looking at. I think at one point I must have had double digit open threads that I kept re-opening them and starting new ones until I guess I was starting to bog down their support process and it was just better to just pay me out and shut me up. Its clear that sending me a machine isn't going to result in a revenue stream for Bonaverde and I'm costing them time by making a noise.

I received my full refund via PayPal today. That's my story anyway and how my time with Bonaverde ends.

Its truly a shame that any of this has been necessary. The initial pitch really did sound like something that could change the way coffee is done. I've backed a lot of Kickstarter projects and absolutely expect timelines to slip and final products to change - if they ever even deliver (looking at you coolest cooler). But this is a different beast. This doesn't feel like a journey of steep learning curves, hard realities and problems that have to be overcome. This one feels a lot more deliberate and contrived. The pitch to Seedmatch sold us as consumers of a high volume high profit Rockafella business model. The final product looks so close to the Kaffee Toro machine from Han's last bankrupt company that its difficult to believe the initial concept machine was ever more than snake oil. The distribution network being pushed now with RFID tags, privacy policies, a machine streaming personal data back to HQ, feels a very long way from the holistic coffee distribution network I hoped to be part of. One thing is for sure, what Bonaverde is selling now is far away from what was pitched. Far enough to take me from wanting in to wanting out of any dealings with Bonaverde at any cost.

Mark Lenssen on November 23

Hans refund me otherwise I will personally bring my machine to your doorstep.

Niek Batstra

received the machine yesterday but NO RFID TAGS! please send them to all backers so we can start brewing our own beans too as promised

Kevin Reierson on November 22

I wouldn't expect a response to any questions on here, they seem to have abandoned Kickstarter backers once again.

Stefan Tobiasson on November 21

Where is my Kickastarter RFI tag?

Carsten Andersen on November 21

Please refund my coffee machine, I don’t want your machine, I haven’t backed this product. You made a complete different product than I backed. So please refund my money

BrianW on November 19

Two things: one, I'm surprised anyone wants to return their machine after waiting 4+ years to get it. If the refund came at the same time as the label, great. But with their track record, a bird in the hand is worth 2 in the bush. My .02.

That being said, cracked the unit open finally, and after a clumsy and contradictory setup process, the four of us tried the coffee. The ladies in the group thought it ok (not good, not great); My friend and I thought it bland as can be with no flavor. At best, an expensive gimmick thus far. For about 1/2 the current retail price you can buy a roaster, burr grinder, and then a decent French press or vacuum pot without the 'convenience' of an all-in-one unit. And those 3 separate devices require no privacy policy acceptance, or RFID take scans to use them. I'll hold out some minimal amount of hope for the unlimited RFID card and roasting profiles + the supposed additional coffee that may be on the way. But for now, it's back in the box.

Benjamin Kober on November 19

Declined the privacy policy via form and in a long phone call with Hans. Have been promised a return label for my beta machine and a refund. Neither have arrived at my doorstep, so I sent back the beta machine myself to get the refund finally. Refund hasn’t arrived, but yesterday another factory Berlin machine arrived -WTF?! Unfortunately I wasn’t at home so a neighbor signed for the machine for me, now I’m hoping to get a return label for this unwanted machine.

@BV: please send me a return label ASAP and give me the refund I requested at least 5 times. You could save yourself a lot of costs by sending me a refund instead of the machine I didn’t want. You can also sell the machine to another customer at a far higher price as the money I pledged 4 years ago - win-win, isn’t it?

Kevin Reierson on November 19

They responded to me on facebook, but it was more excuses as usual. I am going to continue posting on their facebook page until they block me or finally give me my money back.

Helge Jordal on November 19

Yes they're responding on Facebook, but no more meaningful than here. The frauds.

BrianW on November 18

FYI - they seem to be responding on their Facebook page - while here, they've been silent.

Kevin Reierson on November 18

I just want my god damn refund so I never have to think about this "company" and their garbage machine ever again.

I also am not going to accept the Bonaberde “privacy” (or lack thereof) policy, will not accept their version of IoT, am disgusted by their complete lack of ethics from the very start.

I too have completed the process of requesting a refund and filling out the online request for they provided.

No refund showing up in my Paypal account yet, in fact there’s been no communication back with the requisite RMA number and return shipping label.

The only communications I’ve see from them are strangely vague, extraordinarily unhelpful, entirely uninformative, sardonically snide, and massively obtuse replies to my posts (and some of yours) on Facebook (similar to postings here on Kickstarter).

Dan Pearce on November 17

US backer. Address confirmation form completed with privacy policy firmly declined. You also have received and acknowledged receipt of my refund details. Just process it already so we can go our separate ways.

Peter M on November 17

Might take me another 4 yrs*

Peter M on November 17

BV New update posted. My understanding is that they are going to send us more coffee (supposedly some 86-89 point coffee)- and they have begun on machine # 2. While the Berlin has some serious defects- if they succeed in fixing them their concept stands to take some decent market share. The concierge is live and the rest of the US machines are shipping. Have at it! Now is the time to test out your machine and let people know what you think.

As for me- I still plan to take mine apart and put it into a lovely beautiful wood veneered curved frame with all access controls and a better roaster. It might flame me another 4 years but.

Reinoud on November 17

It has been 3+ years since I filed my refund request. So I might as well try again on the forum. @Bonaverde can you please please please refund? Thank you.

BrianW on November 17

I'm surprised - on one of the eBay auctions, a user received bags of flavored coffee (Blueberry, Almond, Mixed Nuts). Yet mine had 20 bags of the same coffee. What gives? When is replacement coffee (or the RFID tags for unlimited brewing) going to be available. I have a 20 pound paper weight at this juncture.

Roger Harvey on November 17

My machine should have been on container 1, still hasn't arrived and they haven't bothered to respond to any of my emails I have sent over the last month! Not that I will probably do much with the machine, unless they have greatly reduced the smell it makes while roasting, I could only use the beta machine when it was directly under the kitchen extractor fan and the fan was on a high setting, otherwise the smell was too much for me! Plus the beta machine's grinder packed up before I had used all the coffee up which was supplied with it.

Helge Jordal on November 17

My machine should have been in container 1 or 2, I asked for a refund instead, not getting anything. I've been talking to their customer help (loose term) on Facebook, and I'm being told they can't refund right now, for 'cashflow reasons', and that they 'hope to have a refund ready in 3 weeks'. I am beyond pissed.

Christoph N on November 16

Same here, still wanting on any action taken towards a refund. Machine should be in container 3, did anyone with machines in container 1 or 2 actually get a refund instead of the machine?

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Who believes in us

We have worked over 2 years to make our vision become reality by developing, enhancing and testing our roast-grind-brew coffee machine.

Finally we're all set for the final step: We want to take our machine from 135 working prototypes to serial production. We need your pre-orders to finance and start tooling.

Let's start with a little video showing you how our prototype works:

And for all the tech and coffee geeks amongst you, let's have a closer look at the technical details of the machine. To spice the following list up a little bit, we're also revealing why we decided to delay the launch by a couple of days:

Technical data sheet &

facts for the serial production

The next steps

That's how we are going to proceed from now on:

The design

We have crowd-sourced brilliant designs with dedicated designers from all over the world and were overwhelmed by their submissions. As it is prohibited to show photorealistic renderings that could be mistaken for finished products, we hope that our attached sketches and the videos give you a good idea how the machine is going to look.

The following views will give you an overview of how the technical components will be arranged within your machine.

Risks and challenges

There will always be risks and challenges when starting to get a serial production ready. It is a challenge we feel comfortable accepting for many reasons. The most comforting reason for us is that we have created 135 prototypes before including tooling. We also believe that our core technology is full proof and we have great confidence in it.

Things you might be concerned about:

➢ Design: Our crowd design challenge has already delivered a magnificent design. So we are safe on that part.

➢ Usability: We strongly focus on simplicity, that means an easily understandable user interface and high user friendliness. Having used the prototype for over 18 months now, we've collected the experience to build a machine that's easy to use for everyone.

➢ Functionality: We are down to our 5th generation of prototypes. We've been through an intensive trial and error phase and, thanks to that, have identified all remotely possible flaws to this machine. Now we are ready to enter the market with a stable and well-functioning machine.

➢ Serial production: 135 working prototypes have been built already and our solid core technology has passed the reality check. We have done the whole tooling, production line set-up and engineering process before. We are excited to take our baby to the next level.

➢ Coffee quality: By now, way more than 15,000 of you have tried our coffee. We were overwhelmed by your positive feedback and have done everything to ensure recurring quality for our machine.

Supply Chain & Logistics:

➢ Machine parts: We have done more than 18 months of closed beta testing on all crucial parts. We identified the critical parts of our machine and either replaced or made sure to fix them.

➢ Suppliers: We are talking to exclusive and innovative supplier partners for coffee, smoke and water filters to ensure best service quality and a high durability of all machine parts.

➢ Manufacturing partner: Signed. Timeline set. Ready to roll.

Questions about this project? Check out the FAQ

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KARMA package: Thank you and congrats, you’re a coffee changer! You become part of our community & receive regular updates. And of course, we'll reach out with a personal thank you! Help spread the word: Let’s change coffee. Together!

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All Access Berlin: Pledge for a legendary night to remember. We'll throw an exclusive PARTY that proves Berlin is nothing short of what "they" say about it. Pledge on you, secret special and insane fun on us. And of course all higher pledges include the ticket as well! Save the date: December 13th

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HIPSTER package: Pledge to not only become part of our coffee change movement, but to also receive our stylish Bonaverde jute bag, hand crafted by the team and straight from Hipster Berlin. Looks great around your xmas tree.

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Pledge US$ 250 or more About $250

EARLY BIRD: Woo-hoo! You ‘stand’ up for coffee, and not only in the morning! You will get one of THE VERY FIRST ROAST-GRIND-BREW COFFEE MACHINES. Those machines will have a special serial number plaque from 1-100! But we don't leave it with that: We're also welcoming you to the coffee changer community and shower you with 6.6 lbs. (3kg) of green coffee beans (from Henry, our farmer based in Nicaragua) as well as all the good stuff above!

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THE MACHINE: Missed the early bird? Don't worry. You will also get one of OUR ROAST-GRIND-BREW COFFEE MACHINES and we're of course welcoming you to the coffee changer community and shower you with 6.6 lbs. (3kg) of green coffee beans (from Henry, our farmer based in Nicaragua) as well as all the other good stuff above!

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Pitch Your STITCH: So the world's first roast-grind-brew machine isn't enough - you want it even more special? Personalize your coffee bag by choosing a customized stitching. You'll get 3 beautiful bags nobody else has - and of course everything from the machine package above!

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BETA FIELD TESTER: You'll be THE FIRST to enjoy fresh coffee: You get one of our 100 first serial TEST machines 3 months before we ship out the machine – and WE will listen to YOU for final improvements. You'll be part of our team! We think that's great. And of course we will swap your machine for a serial - if desired.

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1-year, NO WORRIES: 6.6 lbs. (3kg) green coffee beans (origin of your choice) every 3 months for 1 year plus our EARLY BIRD machine package! That's 33 lbs. (15kg) of coffee in total.

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I want PERSONAL treatment: We will hold a cupping party in Berlin, San Francisco or New York for you and up to 20 friends at your home or office THIS year! You’ll meet us, experience the machine and taste the coffee. Includes the NO WORRIES package and a lot of fun! Oh and a LOT of cake.

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Pledge US$ 1,250 or more About $1,250

Wow, those first three were gone quickly. I want PERSONAL treatment too: We will hold a cupping party ANYWHERE in the US or Germany for you and up to 20 friends at your home or office THIS year! You’ll meet us, experience the machine and taste the coffee. Includes the NO WORRIES package and a lot of fun! Oh and a LOT of cake.

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Pledge US$ 5,000 or more About $5,000

I am a FARMER: You and your coffee will immediately be listed on our community platform and you'll receive a MACHINE to hold tastings with your friends or just to enjoy your own coffee. You'll get an individual profile to offer your coffee directly to the crowd. Just like Henry!

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Pledge US$ 10,000 About $10,000

You & a friend TRAVEL with us: We will visit one of our partner farmers together (e.g. Brazil, Nicaragua, Ethiopia or Peru). You’ll learn a lot about coffee and taste even more. Includes the PERSONAL treatment package. Excludes travel to destination country. Rest of the trip is on us. Delivery dates depend on your availability and coffee harvest times in the country of travel.

Funding period

Nov 12, 2013 - Dec 8, 2013 (26 days)

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Bonaverde Marketplace

Coffee Growers

WeвЂ™re currently working with three grower partners in Nicaragua to supply coffee to our customers, as well as establishing agreements with interested growers in Mexico and Sao Tome e Principe. WeвЂ™ve received more than 200 inquiries from growers interested in selling beans on our platform, and our current focus is on building the infrastructure needed to bring them on board as quickly as demand grows.

Growers on our platform are guaranteed a price of at least 25% above production cost. For the first time, theyвЂ™ll also have the opportunity to drive up demand and prices for their coffee by building their own brands.

Marketplace

An early version of our online platform will be tested by 110V Beta testers in summer 2017. We'll have a marketplace available to accompany mass shipment in late summer and autumn 2017,В with additions and improvements consistently arriving as the user community grows.

Currently, weвЂ™re working with three Nicaraguan growers connected through highly-respected coffee sourcing partner ECOM. As we move forward, Bonaverde sourcing facilitators, or Coffee Scouts, will take responsibility for onboarding growers to the marketplace. WeвЂ™re working on a set of standards to ensure fair practices and high-quality for the beans in our marketplaces. YouвЂ™ll also be able to leave reviews of coffee purchased through our marketplace. We expectВ sales and reviews to organicallyВ set and uphold high quality standards.

Customs and tax are included in your coffee price. For the moment, we'll be accounting for them. Later, our distributors will take over addressing these costs.В

While pricing will depend on origin and varietal, our green bean pouches will be available for about $2 each. These single-portion pouches are packaged to contain enough beans for 1l of coffee.

While youвЂ™ll be purchasing beans from growers via our marketplace, it doesnвЂ™t make sense financially for them to ship each consumer-sized package directly to your doorstep. At the beginning, Bonaverde will facilitate shipment. Later, fulfillmentВ partnersВ in coffee consuming countries will receive large shipments of beans from growers, which they will pass on to you after you order. Our ecosystem is carefully set up to ensure that these fulfillment partnersвЂ™ profits are directly tied to growersвЂ™ profits, putting value-added processes in the hands of producers and consumers rather than middlemen.

Machine Operation

General Questions

Yes, the coffee pouches are biodegradable filters so you can recycle them -- better yet, however, you can compost them.В You can put them right into your garden (just remove the small scanner chip).

The Bonaverde Berlin is 50 cm (20") tall, 25 cm (10") wide and 25 cm (10") deep.

The white/green and silver/black are the exact same size.В

The machine weighs about 10kg (22 lbs).

Consumption of electricity during stand-by mode is approximately 1 watt.

Im Stand-By Modus verbraucht die Maschine circa 1 Watt an Strom.

The roast-grind-brew process takes approximately 15 to 20 minutes, depending on roast profile and coffeeВ variety.

Currently, the machine is only calibrated for full pots of coffee.В We are working on a half-pot option for times when you donвЂ™t need a full liter of coffee.В

Nein, das ist momentan nicht mГ¶glich. Sollten zu viel oder zu wenig grГјne Bohnen in die RГ¶stkammer gefГјllt werden, wird die Bohne entweder ГјberrГ¶stet oder zu wenig gerГ¶stet. In beiden FГ¤llen verfГ¤lscht dies den Genuss des Kaffees.

Yes. We're developing features that will allow you to adjust existing roasting profiles, create and store personal roast profiles, exchange recipes with other Coffee Changers, and find profiles created by professional roasters - all through your smartphone.

Throughout development of our roast-grind-brew process, we've consulted with coffee experts (including our teamвЂ™s two Q Graders), roasters, coffee lovers and baristas to ensure our machines produce the best tasting coffee available. Opinions on degassing vary, and differ depending on type of roast, bean varietal, and whether youвЂ™re preparing espresso or filter coffee. In the end, we come back to the taste. Over the course of our development, the over 15,000 people who have tasted our coffee have had no complaints about the taste - in fact, theyвЂ™ve raved about it!

Security for your machine. Infinite or multiple use chips leave openings for hackers. Single-use chips protect the security of your machine.
Security for farmers. WeвЂ™re welcoming all players - growers, brands, roasters, etc. - into our online marketplace. We believe their presence can burgeon growers to greater success. This only works, however, if they have incentive to play by the rules. The big players have a vested interest in the current system. They benefit from owning value-added processes. We need to make sure our ecosystem is protected through some kind of guard, to ensure it remains the grower-centric trade infrastructure it is designed to be. Single-use chips make this possible.

Not at the moment. Once the process has begun, it must run through to completion. Given the wide interest in this, however, we are looking into developing grind-only and roast-only features through our app.

We selected a high-alloy steel grinder for optimum durability. The grinder is meticulously calibrated for a consistent grind, every time.

The machine weighs 9kg.

At the moment, the machine only processes green beans. It is not possible to bypass the roaster to access the grinder.

The RFID chip contains a unique serial number for the coffee you're about to prepare. This serial number is associated with a range of information in our Coffee Cloud, including the ideal roasting curve for the bean. When you scan the RFID chip, it sends the number to the Coffee Cloud, which then tells the machine what temperature to use at various stages of the roasting process. It does not contain grinder settings - you can set those yourself using the dial behind the water tank!

WeвЂ™ll be meeting the standards set by European recycling law, which is arguably the strictest in the world. WeвЂ™re happy to bring these high environmental responsibility standards to where ever you brew your coffee.

Below please find a series of "how to" videos that quickly walk you through some basics of machine operation can cleaning, along with an explanation of the Coffee Changer Badge

Machine Framework (understanding the different parts):В https://vimeo.com/ 242720218

We hope you're enjoying your coffee!

WeвЂ™re sorry our manual is a bit out of date, but theВ good news is, your machine does not require a full rinse cycle as we do a test rinse at the point of production.

Simply give the glass coffee jug and plastic water container a quick rinse in your sink before using the first time, and you are all set to enjoy your first pot of freshly roasted coffee!

If you areВ having trouble with theВ Coffee ConciergeВ (concierge.bonaverde.com) here are a few things you can do to troubleshoot.

Be sure you are connected.В Have you been prompted for your IMEI number (International Mobile Equipment Identity), a 15 digit number which for the Berlin usually starts with 35704? The IMEI is located on the bottom of your machine along with the serial number. If you have not yet connected then say Hello to the Concierge and we'll be sure we get you connected.В В
If you have already connected, try a reset.В Type in "Cancel" and this should reset the Concierge.В You may be prompted to reenter your IMEI number but you should not need to be re-added as you will already be noted as an accepted user.

If neither of these remedies work,В try a hard reset by unplugging your machine for 10 seconds and then plugging it back in and try again.

The Bonaverde Berlin is automatically connected to the Internet through a 3G cellular connection when the machine is plugged in.В This connection is managed by Bonaverde and there is no charge to the user.В В

There is no wireless (wifi, wi-fi) connection of the machine itself.В However, by visitingВ concierge.bonaverde.com В you can connect the machine to Facebook Messenger (phone or desktop) which will allow you to control the machine from your phone.В For more information about connecting your Berlin to the Coffee Concierge please visit this article:В How do I connect the machine to the Internet? Is there an app?

If there is no cellular service available in the location of the machine, one can still make coffee by using the RFID scan pad on the front of the machine to start the roast-grind-brew process.

When you plug in your Bonaverde Berlin, the SIM card inside automatically connects to the available cellular network (it operates on 3G).В The is no cost to you for this connection.

We have released an alpha version of our Coffee Concierge that will allow you to connect your phone to the machine.В This feature,В which runs on Facebook Messenger and can be found at concierge.bonaverde.comВ on your phone or computer.

Say "hello" and you will be prompted for some information. The Coffee Concierge connects to Facebook Messenger using the machine's unique IMEI number (International Mobile Equipment Identity), a 15 digit number which for the Berlin usually starts with 35704 and is found on the bottom of your machine along with the serial number.В В

No. Once it's plugged in, the machine is ready to use anytime!В

Nein, die Maschine ist betriebsbereit, sobald sie an Strom angeschlossen ist.

Yes! For your convenience, weВ pack our green beans in a biodegradable coffee filter. IfВ using green beans from other sources, we recommend you to use a commercial coffee filter no. 4.

Ja! Im Moment haben wir verschiedene Verpackungsvarianten fГјr die grГјnen Bohnen. Sollten diese in einem Kaffeefilter verpackt sein, kann dieser direkt als Filter benutzt werden. Sollten die grГјnen Bohnen in einer der anderen Verpackungen ankommen, muss der Benutzer bitte einen handelsГјblichen Filter in das Filterfach einsetzen (wir empfehlen GrГ¶Гџe 4, es geht aber auch jede andere GrГ¶Гџe, die gut in das Filterfach passt.)

Open the filter drawer above the coffee jug by pulling it gently towards you.В Open and insert the coffee filter. Push the drawer back intoВ the machine.В В

Г–ffne die Filterkammer mit einem leichten Ziehen zu dir, lege den Filter ein und schieb das Fach zurГјck in die Maschine.

TheВ amount of water used will influence theВ taste and bitterness of theВ coffee. We have indicated some different levels you may want to try - but as long as you don't go below the minimum recommendation, it's up to you!

Du selber kannst entscheiden wie viel Wasser du in den Wassertank fГјllen mГ¶chtest, je nachdem wie stark oder leicht dein Kaffee werden soll. Beachte jedoch, dass das Minimum nicht unterschritten wird.

First, open the filter drawer by pulling it gently towards you.В Then removeВ used coffee filter. The filter is biodegradable. We recommend reusing the coffee grounds for compost, fertilizer, or cleaning!

es! Use the dial behind the watertank to choose between five expertly-calibrated grinder settings.

Your owners manual also has detailed setup instructions with photos, and here are a few quick tips to get you started.

Unboxing the machine -- we recommend you keep the packaging in case you want to take the Berlin somewhere, like your office!

1. Remove the eggshell carton from the top of the machine.

2. Leaving the machine in the bag, lift it out of the package.

3. Open the bag and slide it down around the sides of the machine.

4. Take a moment to remove all foil and stickers from your machine.

5. Remove the plastic security ring from your coffee carafe.

1.В Plug it in! The power cable will already be inserted into the bottom of your machine.В

2.В Double check to make sure the cable is firmly inserted in the machine before plugging it into the socket.

3.В Once plugged in, a white light will indicate that your machine is ready to rock and roll.

4.В Tap the round sensor on the front of your machine to get started. A yellow light will flash, indicating the machine is ready for its first air filter.

5.В Find the air filter that came with your machine and scan it into the machine by holding it in front of the sensor panel on the front of your machine. Now unwrap the filter so it can be inserted into the machine.

6. To insert the air filter, gently push in the panel on the top right side of the machine and take out the big black air filter box. You may have to be a little firm with it if itвЂ™s stubborn. Open the top of the air filter box and push the flaps asked to insert the air filter. With the air filter safely nestled inside, move the flaps back. It only fits one way but the flaps do take a bit of pressure to close!В Re-attach the cover and re-insert into the side of the machine.В Then put the outer panel back on by putting the bottom of the panel in first and gently press it back into place.В Your air filter is good for 30 brews.В Don't worry, you don't have to count, a yellow light will appear on the sensor panel when it is time to replace it!В

Making Coffee -- ok, now we are ready to make some amazing coffee!В

1.В Push the round sensor and scan your selected coffee pouch on the front of the machine.

2. Open the roasting chamber using the simple push-push mechanism. Tear the top of the coffee pouch open along the perforatedВ line, pour your beans into the roasting chamber, and push roasting door close.

3. Your empty pouch has transformed into a coffee filter. Magical! Insert the filter into the filter drawer which is located just above the carafe.

4. Fill the water tank on the left side of the machine (with water only please).

5. With all players in place, push the round sensor on the front of the machine to begin the roast-grind-brew experience!В В

There is no on/off or "power" button on your Bonaverde Berlin.В You simply plug it in and you are ready to go.В В

By touching the sensor pad on the front of the machine you will "wake it up" and be ready to go.

After you make a pot of coffee the machine will keep the pot warm for 15 minutes and then turn off automatically.В Your machine will then go into standby mode until you are ready to make your next pot.

(Note to beta backers -- we heard from a lot of you that you did not like the persistent flashing light on the sensor panel so we disabled that in the final version of the machine.)

Maintenance

The Bonaverde Berlin comes with a standard one year warranty.В We want you to be happy with your product and will do our best to get you brewing again as quickly as possible!

If your machine fails during normal usage and we are not able to get it working again via our customer support team, they will put you in touch with our aftermarket service team.В Our aftermarket team will work with you to repair or replace your machine at no cost to you.

If you damage your machine (e.g., accidentally knock it off the table) our aftermarket team will assess whether your machine can be repaired and further determine any costs to do so.

The grinder shouldВ be cleaned about every six months. We are developing a maintenance kit for this purpose, which will include grinder cleaner and water softening agent. We will keep you posted!

Ja, das Mahlwerk sollte ungefГ¤hr alle 6 Monate gereinigt werden. Wir entwickeln zur Zeit ein Maintenance Kit inklusive Mahlwerkreiniger und Entkalker. Unsere Beta-Tester werden natГјrlich als Erste dieses kit testen kГ¶nnen! Wir halten Sie auf dem Laufenden!

The air filter will last for 30 roasts.В The machine will let you know whenВ it is time to change the filter with a yellowВ light on your sensor panel. Remember to scan the code on the new filter (there is a sticker on the packaging) so that your machine resets its counter after replacement.

Here is a quick video on how to replace the air filter:В https://vimeo.com/ 242720705В

Der Luftfilter sollte nach circa 30 BrГјhvorgГ¤ngen ausgetauscht werden. Der runde Lichtsensor leuchtet gelb, wenn dies der Fall ist.

Here's a quick video on how to replace the air filter:В https://vimeo.com/ 242720705В

For those of you would prefer written directions, here you go!В

Be sure the machine is cool and unplugged before you proceed. В The air filter is located inВ the compartment on the right side of the machine. Gently push the round shallow indentВ on top of the compartment to open. Remove the outer cover and set it aside. Take outВ the black air filter box, remove the lid, flip up the small metal clips and remove the filter. Discard or recycle as local laws allow.

Unwrap the new filter and keep the packaging which containsВ RFID tagВ needed to reset theВ filter count.

Insert the new air filter, white-side up, and push downВ the metal clips. Return the lid to the air filter compartment and be sure it is tightly closed.В Click the compartment cover back on and return the compartment to the machine, inserting the bottom first.В Before starting another roast-grind-brew process, touch the round sensor, wait for the beep,В scan the RFID tag on the air filter packaging, and touch the sensor again. You are all set!

Г–ffne das Luft-Filter-Fach auf der rechten Seite der Maschine indem du vorsichtig mit Zeigefinger oder Daumen in die runde Einkerbung drГјckst. Die Seitenwand klickt heraus und du kannst sie zur seite legen. Nimm die schwarze Luft-Filter-Schachtel heraus sodass der schwarze Deckel nach oben zeigt. Gib dabei Acht, dass keine Kaffeebohnenschalen heraus fallen. Г–ffne nun den Deckel der Box. Г–ffne die zwei StahlbГјgel bis zum Anschlag, so dass du den gebrauchten Lluftfilter optimal entnehmen kannst. Nimm den neuen Luftfilter aus der Verpackung und setze ihn in die Luft-Filter-Box. Wichtig ist, dass du die Verpackungsfolie des neuen Luftfilters behГ¤ltst. Klappe die zwei StahlbГјgel mit Druck auf den neuen Luftfilter. Nun kannst du den Deckel der schwarzen Luft-Filter-Box wieder schlieГџen und die Schachtel in das Seitenfach der Maschine drГјcken. Die Luft-Filter-Box muss auf die richtigen Adapter gedrГјckt werden. AnschlieГџend kann die Seitenwand der Maschine von unten wieder eingehakt werden und oben in die Maschine eingeklickt werden. Um den Luftfilter zu aktivieren muss der runde Lichtsensor einmal berГјhrt werden, bis der Schriftzug SCAN aufleuchtet. Dann bitte den RFID tag scannen, der auf der RГјckseite der Luftfilter-Verpackung zu sehen ist und noch einmal den runden Lichtsensor berГјhren.

The silver skins should be emptied once a week, or every 5-10 brews.

Die Kaffeebohnenschalen sollten einmal pro Woche aus der Metallkammer entleert werden.

The water tank, roasting chamber and air filter cartridge are all easily removed forВ maintenance. While the grinder cannot be removed, we are developing a kit for cleaning it every six months. WeВ advise that you contact your distributor with other maintenance concerns.

To clean your machine, simply wipe with a damp towel or cloth.В The filter drawer and coffee carafe are both dishwasher safe for easy cleaning.

Je nach Gebrauch sollte die Kaffeemaschine regelmГ¤Гџig gereinigt werden. Die RГ¶stkammer und Maschine kГ¶nnen mit einem feuchten Putztuch gereinigt werden. Filterfach und Kaffeekanne kГ¶nnen auch per SpГјlmaschine gereinigt werden.

Common Problems

If you are having trouble with your Bonaverde Berlin and you have not been able to solve the issue through one of these methods, you can try a hard reset by holding the sensor button for 5 seconds.В If this doesn't work, try unplugging the machine for 10 seconds and plugging it back in.В

For information on how to reset the Coffee Concierge, please click here.

Your power cord should be safely tucked in the coffee carafe during shipping. As items sometimes shift during shipping, you may also find it underneath the eggshell packaging.В Once located, the cord attaches to the bottom of the machine.В

Normalerweise ist das Kabel in der Kaffeekanne. Falls nicht, bitte nochmal im Karton selber nachschauen, manchmal liegt es auch am Boden unter der Eggshell-Verpackung.

Here's a video on the meaning of the different light and signals:В https://vimeo.com/ 242719577

Your Bonaverde Berlin has its own special language of lights and sounds, designed to make it easy to understand your machineвЂ™s processes and needs.

Here are some tips for when the circle on your scanner bad turns a particular color.

Green -В Green lights are forВ affirmation! A green light means all systems are go, indicating either a successful scan or a freshly finished pot of coffee.

Blue - Blue lights are for water. Fill your water tank, press the round sensor, and the brewing should restart smoothly.

Yellow - Yellow lights are your machineвЂ™s request for a new air filter. Once the air filter is correctly replaced, the light should return to white.

Red -- Red lights indicate there is an issue or error.В It is important to also listen for a "beep" that will give you some indication of the problem. Here is a quick guide.

Red Light (and no beep) = Possible scan error.

If after a scan the machine flashes a single red light, you may have scanned the wrong tag. Wait for the round white light to come back on, press the round sensor, and scan again.

Red Light + Single beep = Roasting Chamber or Air Filter or Filter Drawer not inserted correctly

Check the Air Filter and silver skin container to ensure they fit snugly in their compartment (right side of the machine). Check the Roasting Chamber and Filter Drawer to ensure they are in their correct their positions.

Red Light + Two beeps = Something has gone wrong.В

Try resetting the machine by holding the sensor button for 5 seconds.В If this doesn't work, try unplugging the machine for 10 seconds and plugging it back in.В

All lights are turning red:В If all lights on the machine turn red on plug-in, the machine may simply need to cool down after its last roast. Wait for the red lights to turn off and switch to a pulsing white light before starting your next pot of coffee.

If none of these remedies work, please contact the support team through support.bonaverde.com.

Crowdfunding Backers and Pre-Orders

Common Questions

When registering in the contest, each participant agrees to the following conditions of participation:

The contest is hold exclusively for BonaverdeвЂ™s fourth Kickstarter anniversary and therefore open for everyone around the world who supported Bonaverde with an investment on Kickstarter in 2013. Eligible are all natural persons 18 years and up.

All employees of BONAVERDE COFFEE AG are excluded from taking part in the contest as well as their relatives.

The contest is organized by BONAVERDE COFFEE AG c/o MCB Beteiligungs GmbH, Rosenthaler Str. 2, 10119 Berlin Germany.

The contest is not linked to Facebook and Instagram and is not sponsored by the mentioned social media networking sites.

To enter the contest each user must вЂњlikeвЂќ the marked and fixed contest-post on Facebook and post a picture of either the Bonaverde Berlin, coffee or a coffee cup. Participation via mail, e-mail, etc. are excluded.

Each participant can only enter once. The winning picture will be chosen by members of BONAVERDE COFFEE AG.

Participants declare that the posted picture is free from the rights of third parties, that the winner either owns the rights or owns the consent of the pictureвЂ™s creator.

Also participants are obliged to refrain from illegal or foreign content.

Period of participation is from 12th of November 2017 to 24th of November 2017.

The winner will be picked and also announced on Monday, the 27th of November 2017, and informed below the picture (as a comment).

If the winner doesnвЂ™t respond within seven days, a new winner will be chosen.

Participants can win a Coffee Tasting with Kike, BonaverdeвЂ™s Head of Roasting, on 3rd of February 2018. A Travel Voucher including transportation and an overnight stay in a hotel incl. breakfast in Berlin for two are part of the voucher as well.

All extra costs (phone calls, mini bar in the hotel, etc.) are bore by the winners themselves.

The winner will receive the voucher via e-mail.

The prizes cannot be exchanged, transferred to another person, nor be paid out in cash.

The winnerвЂ™s name will be published. The winner must be aware of being filmed and/or photographed on production days for commercial projects and must assign spatial and temporal, absolute and exclusive rights of use and rights to edit of the recording images and sounds to BONAVERDE COFFEE AG for commercial use.

Facebook and Instagram names of participants will be registered and saved for determination of the winners, but not longer than 30 days. All data will be deleted afterwards and not shared with third parties. Comments on Facebook remain and stay publicly available.

Participants enjoy the rights of information, modification and revocation.

BONAVERDE COFFEE AG reserves the right to adjust, modify or terminate the competition if necessary.

With handing-over of the prize, BONAVERDE COFFEE AG shall be free from all obligations. Any liability for defects as to the quality or title of the information is excluded from BONAVERDE COFFEE AG.

With confirmation of the trip, the winner is subjected to the travelling conditions of the organizer.

Legal recourse is excluded.

While we hope youвЂ™ll help us build a fairer world of coffee by using our marketplace to buy directly from growers, crowdfunding backers will have access to smartphone features that will allow you to roast any bean on your machine. TheseВ will include the option to choose from roasting profiles for any beans without an RFID. As we continue to develop these features, youвЂ™ll also be able to build your own profiles for green beans from your phone.

Shipment, Delivery & Refunds

Beta machines for 220V testers were shipped in December 2016.

Beta machines for 110V testers are scheduled for shipment in summerВ 2017.

Mass delivery is expected for late summer 2017.

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Hans Stier, Gründer von Bonaverde Bonaverde Viele Menschen kommen morgens nicht aus dem Bett, wenn sie keine heiße Tasse Kaffee bekommen. Das Heißgetränk ist nicht nur morgens äußerst beliebt, auch über den Tag verteilt gönnen sich die Menschen gerne einen Kaffee, nicht nur wegen des guten Geschmacks, sondern auch wegen der belebenden Wirkung.

Aber Kaffee ist nicht gleich Kaffee, denn je nach Röstung kann dieser ganz anders schmecken. Doch kann man den Geschmack von Kaffee, der unter anderem durch die unterschiedliche Kaffeebohnenröstung hervorgerufen wird, auch selbst bestimmen? Diese Frage stellte sich auch Hans Stier, der Gründer von Bonaverde, einem Unternehmen für Kaffeevollautomaten mit Röstfunktion.

Ein Rückschlag, aus dem Bonaverde entstand

Der gelernte Jurist Hans Stier saß im Dezember 2009 in einem Bürogebäude in Berlin und schlug sich mit dem wenig spannenden Thema Energiesteuerrecht herum. Es war bereits 3 Uhr in der Nacht und Stier fantasierte in seiner Müdigkeit vor sich hin, wie es wohl wäre, die Bohnen für den Kaffee in seiner Hand selbst rösten zu können und somit Steuern zu sparen, sagt er im Gespräch mit Business Insider.

Rohkaffee sei nämlich steuerfrei, erklärt der Jurist. Mit einem Preis von knapp 2,20 Euro pro Kilo sei Rohkaffee deutlich günstiger als die Mischungen bei Tschibo und Co., was die Idee in Stiers Kopf immer konkreter werden ließ.

Er kündigte am nächsten Morgen seinen Job, um seine Idee zu verwirklichen, nicht ohne vorher noch alle möglicherweise notwendigen Patente zu prüfen.

Die Kaffeemaschine wurde über Kickstarter finanziert Bonaverde

„Es war eine überstürzte Reaktion, aber ich war mir sicher, dass die Idee funktionieren wird“, sagt Stier. „Als Student habe ich in einem Coffee-Shop gearbeitet, meine Liebe zu Kaffee war also schon immer vorhanden“, verrät er.

Die Idee, die Bohnen selbst zu rösten, kam ihm aber erst, als er den Preis für geröstete Kaffeebohnen im Vergleich zu rohem Kaffee sah. Siemens hatte, seinen Angaben zufolge, bereits in den 50er Jahren ein ganz ähnliche Idee umsetzen wollen, scheiterte aber an der Realisierung. Diese Erfahrung musste der Jurist ebenfalls durchleben, als seine erste Firmengründung Kaffee Toro (spanisch für Stier) Pleite ging.

„Die damals entwickelte Maschine entstand in Zusammenarbeit mit der TU Berlin. Es wurden nur 100 Serientypen hergestellt, die allesamt Macken hatten. Das Problem war, dass wenn eine Maschine wieder lief, die nächste bereits repariert werden musste“, sagt Stier. Das habe ihn dazu veranlasst, noch einmal von vorne anzufangen und Bonaverde zu gründen, mit unabhängigen Maschinenbauern, die die Problematik der Röstung von Kaffeebohnen in kleinem Maße kennen und umsetzen können.

2013 startete Bonaverde auf Kickstarter durch

Im Jahr 2013 machte sich Stier einen glücklichen Umstand zu nutze. Er veröffentlichte sein Projekt bei Kickstarter, einer Crowdfunding-Plattform, die in diesem Jahr noch ganz frisch auf dem Markt war.

„Zu der damaligen Zeit konnte man seine Projekte dort nur vorstellen, wenn man einen Wohnsitz in den USA besaß, was aufgrund meines Pilotenscheines, den ich dort gemacht hatte, kein Problem darstellte“, erinnert er sich.

Die Kampagne stieß auf große Resonanz und konnte fünf Millionen US-Dollar an Budget einsammeln. „Damals war das die viertgrößte Kampagne in Europa. Das zeigte mir, dass ich auf dem richtigen Weg war“, so Stier.

Neues Konzept für einen überlaufenen Markt

Mit Bonaverde verfolgt Stier einen Ansatz im Kaffeehandel, der den Begriff „Fair Trade“ weiterdenkt. Es gehe nicht nur um einen fairen Handel, sondern darum, die Kaffeebauern zu einer eigenen Marke zu machen. „Hilfe zur Selbsthilfe“ lautet die Devise des Gründers.

Mit Bonaverde liefert das Unternehmen nämlich nicht nur eine Kaffeemaschine zum Selberrösten der Bohnen, auch die Vermarktung des Rohkaffees ist eine Neuheit. Die industriellen Verpackungsanlagen werden vor Ort beim jeweiligen Kaffeeproduzenten aufgestellt. Dieser füllt kleine Päckchen Rohkaffee in Verpackungen ab.

In den Packungen sind die genauen Daten der Farm enthalten und in jede Packung wird ein NFC-Chip (Near Field Communication) geklebt. Hält man diesen dann an seine Bonaverde-Maschine, erhält der Bauer seine Provision für den Kaffee.

„Dank der IoT-Technologie (Internet of Things) ist der Kaffeeverkauf fairer denn je. Zudem geben wir den Kaffeebauern ein Stück Selbstständigkeit mit auf den Weg, denn sie entscheiden selbst, ob aus dem Kaffee ein eigener Brand wird oder nicht“, so Stier.

Der Kunde könne dann mit dem ausgewählten Kaffee ein eigenes Röstmerkmalprofil erstellen und anhand der Seriennummer stets nachverfolgen, aus welcher Kaffeefarm die Bohnen stammen.

„Die Technologie dahinter ist neu. Wir verwenden die Cloud dazu, die Produkte nachzuverfolgen und können somit sehen, wann welche Kaffees wie zubereitet wurden“, sagt Stier.

Der Bauer selbst bestimmt seine Produktionsmenge und es gibt keine Zwischenhändler mehr, die den Preis für die Bohnen teurer machen. Bonaverde dient dafür als Plattform. Der Kunde braucht dazu nur die Maschine und ein Smartphone mit der App.

Abomodell mit Kaffee

Teil des Konzeptes ist es, dass den Kunden ungefragt Umschläge mit Kaffeebohnen gesendet werden. Die können die Kunden behalten und sie bezahlen diese erst, wenn der NFC-Chip ausgelesen und die rohen Kaffeebohnen in der Maschine geröstet wurden.

Kaffeebauern liefern die grünen Kaffeebohnen zu den Hallen Bonaverde

Auf diese Weise entstehe eine völlig neue Dimension von „fairem Kaffee“, die das Problem mit den Zwischenhändlern umgeht und dem Bauern eine leistungsbezogene Marge übermittelt.

10.000 Tüten mit Kaffee und NFC-Chip werden am Tag pro Produktionsanlage gefertigt, so Stier. Diese sind für Röster und Endkonsumenten gleichermaßen gedacht.

Einen Blick in die Zukunft gewährt der Gründer Business Insider ebenfalls.

Derzeit werde eine Espresso-Maschine gebaut, die ebenfalls „Single-Origin-Coffee“, also Kaffee aus einer Quelle nutzen soll.

Bei Trends wie kaltgebrautem Kaffee will Bonaverde ebenfalls mitmischen und unterstützt lokale Kaffeehäuser in Deutschland dabei, die eigenen Marken zu stärken, eine eigene Maschine dafür sei allerdings nicht geplant.

Primärmarkt USA

Derzeit setzt Stier vor allem auf das kaffeeliebende Land USA, das mit Liz Wald eine eigene Geschäftsführerin bekommen hat. Insgesamt zählt das Unternehmen sieben Mitarbeiter und dutzende Freelancer, die dabei helfen, die Liebe zum Kaffee neu zu entdecken.

Lest auch: Ein deutsches Startup schützt andere Startups vor einer unterschätzten Gefahr

Mit der Direkt-Trade-Strategie ohne Subventionen für die Bauern habe Stier den Wettbewerb in dem sehr engen Markt ein wenig befreit, ist er sich sicher. Der digitale Ansatz und die Liebe zum selbstgemachten Endprodukt könnte dem Unternehmen auf lange Sicht helfen, sich auf dem schwierigen Markt zu etablieren, auch wenn sich IoT-Geräte derzeit in Deutschland noch etwas schwertun. Sollte das klappen, könnte Bonaverde beim zweiten Anlauf das schaffen, was Kaffee Toro vor fünf Jahren verwehrt blieb.

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Neuheit: Bonaverde, die Kaffeemaschine, die auch den Kaffee röstet.

automatisch und eben in kleinen Mengen automatisch macht. Unter dem Namen Bonaverde sammelt eine Firma gerade Geld für die weitere Entwicklung so eines Geräts und des Geschäftmodells drumherum. Da spielt der Verkauf der ungerösteten Kaffeebohnen im Geschäftsmodell eine wichtige Rolle. Importzölle etc spielen bei der Konzeption eine Rolle. Für uns Konsumenten steht eher die Verfügbarkeit von grünen Kaffeebohnen und das Funktionieren des Geräts. Ein echter Kaffeevollautomat.

Ich werde weiter zum Bonaverde recherchieren und berichten.

Buch zum Kaffee selber rösten hier
Günstiger Röstmaschine, um das selber rösten einfach mal auszuprobieren: hier mehr Infos
den passenden Rohkaffee zum selber rösten gibts dann auch gleich hier

Bona :-) Wo kaufen? Wer hat schon Erfahrung damit oder diese im Test gehabt. Im Vergleich zu Kapselmaschinen und Kaffeevollautomaten ist die Handhabung und Verfügbarkeit der Roh-Kaffebohnen sicher ein wichtiger faktor.

Kommentare:

Meine Meinung ist, dass das den Kunden überfordert. Bei Nespresso, Lavazza oder auch bei der Krönung und anderen Sorten bekomme ich einen abgestimmten Kaffee für die Kaffemaschine, den Kaffee-Vollautomaten oder das Kaffeekapsel-System. Wenn ich aber den Kaffee erst selbst rösten muß, muß ich die Auswahl der grünen Kaffeebohnen übernehmen und auch den Röstvorgang optimieren. Das kann mir die Bonaverdemaschine ja nicht abnehmen. Die Rösterszene in den USA lebt doch gerade davon, besondere Sorten ausfindig zu machen und herauzufinden, wie diese am besten geröstet werden. Das ist ein langwieriger Vorgang, der nicht einfach ist. Mal so eben schnell einen guten Kaffee rösten zu wollen halte ich für blauäugig.

Stimmt. Rohe ungeroestete Kaffebohnen kann ,man noch nicht kaufen, oder. Also muss der Hersteller Au ch dafür sorgen. Ein neues Geschäftsfeld wurde ich mal sagen. Bonaverde Kaffee kaufen online also.

Man kann Rohkaffe überall im Internet kaufen

Kapsel, Vollautomat, Siebträger und oder selbst rösten?

kann man das schon kaufen? ist das besser als ein Kaffeevollautomat?

die haben bislang nur ne liste zum vormerken. aber warum wirbt auf der finanzierungsseite schon ein schauspieler damit, das ding zu haben?

Gibt es sowas auch schon von Jura?

Nein, Jura, Saeco und Co machen klassische Kaffevollautomaten. Die hier vorgestellte Kaffeemaschine ist wirklich eine ganz neue Sache. Wenn's funktioniert, hochinteressant.

Danke für den Beitrag. Produktinfo-Online Blog

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Arist, created by Nelson and Benson Chiu, was funded on Kickstarter in 2014 with massive fanfare. It raised $850,000 and was the most successful crowd funded Hong Kong project ever. From the beginning, however, many individuals doubted numerous promised aspects of the Arist. After months of silence on the KS comment page, this website was started to raise awareness and investigate what was going on behind the scenes. It was never imagined the full scope of deception and malpractice that would be uncovered.

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Recent investigation shows the only documented prototype of the Arist is just a Jura coffee machine. A 2012 youtube video shows a remarkably similar project to Arist. Learn more.

Founders paid cash refunds for artificial KS backings

Hundreds of launch party attendees were asked to fund Arist on KS and were then handed cash refunds. This artificially raised the profile of the campaign. Learn more.

Fraud against Hong Kong

Benson and Nelson Chiu deceived the people of Hong Kong by staging paid actors at demonstrations of Arist. They defrauded Hong Kong by not paying taxes. And they have stolen from taxpayers by taking a matching sum – $850,000 for what they raised on Kickstarter. Learn more.

Fraud at ICT

In order to be eligible for the ICT Award, devices need to exist for at least 3 months. Benson and Nelson made the preposterous claim that 1000 machines from the first generation of Arist had been sent around the world to baristas. Learn more.

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Benson and Nelson Chiu have made a career out of being professional snake oil salesmen. From exaggerating or lying about their professional past, plagiarizing other people’s applications, to running a Kickstarter consultancy business which focuses more on the optics of a campaign then teaching businessmen how to build a real product. Learn more.

Changing Product Specifications

Arist was promised to be a product with a laundry list of high-end specifications. A grinder worth more than the price of the machine, a refrigeration unit for milk, 2 bean containers – the list is endless. Bit by bit not only the look of the machine but these specifications are vanishing or changing. Learn more.

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The freshest coffee in the world is waiting for you at our first Bonaverde Coffee Conner! We invite you to challenge your senses and taste the ultimate roast-grind-brew experience of green coffee beans!

Be part of something bigger and join us to empower farmers all over the world! More than coffee lovers, you and your friends can become members of the Coffee Changer Community.

Taste the flavor of fresh roasted coffee beans and feel the Bonaverde experience!

Want to know more? Please visit us at bonaverde.com or follow us on social media.

Important note for all coffee changers:

Our series of Coffee Tasting Events will continue beginning January 2017, so stay tuned to this Eventbrite page to get all of our latest updates!

See you soon at the Bonaverde Coffee Corner.

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Liebe Coffee Changers,

der frischeste Kaffee der Welt wartet auf Dich und Deine Freunde in unserer neu eröffneten Bonaverde Coffee Corner.

Wir laden Dich zum ultimativen Röst-Mahl-Brüh-Erlebnis ein, bei dem Du mit allen Sinnen den unvergleichlichen Geschmack frisch gerösteter Kaffeebohnen entdecken wirst.

Werde Teil einer Bewegung, die den Kaffeemarkt verändern wird - sei dabei und werde Mitglied unserer Coffee Changer Community.

Entdecke den Geschmack frisch gerösteter Bohnen und spüre das unvergleichliche Bonaverde Erlebnis.

Du möchtest mehr erfahren? Schau auf bonaverde.com vorbei oder folge uns über die sozialen Medien.

Wichtiger Hinweis f ü r alle Coffee Changer:

Unsere Serie von Coffee Tastings wird im Januar 2017 weitergehen! Es lohnt sich also gelegentlich auf unserer Eventbriteseite nach den neuesten Updates zu schauen.

пятница, 15 декабря 2017 г.